November 6, 2009

halphillips:

nicolemarietherese:

benzado:

So, this happened on Twitter yesterday:

I think those of us who are already “plugged in” take for granted how hard it is for someone new to the scene to get a group together. If I want to, I’m spoiled for choice, but it took some time to get here. Most of the people I started practicing with were not classmates. You would likely never have heard of me if I hadn’t been a regular at Improdome. I never would have been a regular if I didn’t used to live so close to the PIT; I had a day job.

If “interviewing” isn’t acceptable, what’s the right way to do it? Sitting in for a practice is great, if you can afford to spend the time and money. What’s wrong with wanting to talk to the person first, to get an idea if you get along or not?

I know it’s just Twitter, where the goal is to fit as much snark as you can in 140 characters or fewer. But it’s unfair pass judgment on interviewing, or any idea, if you don’t have a better idea to offer.

Because an interview - by its nature - involves judgment. Not the “comfort-level” judgment involved with seeing how you feel playing with someone but a cold, calculated, impersonal judgment born from a created situation that bears almost NO resemblance to what the improv experience is like.

I miss the sloppy, inclusive, coming-of-age, coming-into-our-own that should automatically come with PRACTICE groups. You’re not forming a team. You’re leaning together. Not cool.

I suspect lots of new students simply don’t know the norms.  I think interviewing people is silly, but I’m sure it’s not silly to someone who knows literally nothing about how practice groups are formed.

I didn’t even know about practice groups until 401.  My first “practice group” was more like open practice sessions: everyone could invite anyone, all our classes got open invitations, and we assumed most people would show up sporadically.  And nobody knew that wasn’t the norm.  When some of us talked about starting a “real” group and maybe performing someday, it seemed like a HUGE step— like it was time to stop dicking around and start taking things seriously.

There’s no handbook.  Interviews would be obnoxious coming from people who know better, but if they don’t, I guess it’s as good a guess as any.

 I knew about practice groups when I first started out. You practiced with your class in between classes. That’s what it used to be.

I don’t remember knowing about performance teams until 2007? And I was taking classes at UCB since 2004. And it was two years after my first 600. I didn’t hang out at McManus at all. I used to go to the class then leave, watch a show and then leave, or do my show at UCB and leave. Ask Pat Baer. Pat was the only person who knew me because of a 600 we did together and I knew I could find him working in the booth and say hi or he would find me and say hi. It wasn’t until I started interning that I hung out and then through that found out about indie teams. I swear I didn’t know the names of any harold team or weekend team performers until I hung out (Besides the teachers I had).

I think you are all like, “Interviews?! What the fuck?” so quickly. But I agree with Hal. I probably would have gone to an interview in 2006. I probably would have thought you had to audition to be in a practice group that performs. If I was starting a practice group that performs back then, I wouldn’t have known anyone and done auditions. Sure, I met people from my classes but after the classes were over those practice sessions were over. And I was basically a ghost anyway so it’s not like a person could talk to me to ask me or I could go up to a person and ask them, or they would even remember me.

I think it’s completely understandable how that situation happened.

  1. mir777 reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    Back in my day, people walked uphill ten miles each way to go to practice group. We paid our coaches in chickens and...
  2. benzado reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    Usually the fault for a bad metaphor lies with the writer. Anyway, the...Caitlin posted...
  3. nicolemarietherese reblogged this from benzado and added:
    I…don’t follow what you’re saying at all. But maybe I am bad at metaphors. So…because people are having trouble...
  4. caitlintime reblogged this from benzado and added:
    I think everyone has made some excellent points today. Not one word was wasted! Just think if this discussion had...
  5. benzado reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    aren’t as lucky as you were. Rather than being swept...wonderful hurricane of activity,...
  6. briyoncelikes reblogged this from mikescollins and added:
    Scollins’s addition to the convo below…
  7. chrysilla reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    This entire thread is both fascinating and paranoia inducing to the almost-level-one student. *hides behind camera*
  8. stephaniestreisand reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    I really like the way the school has 201 practice sessions now. But I didn’t really go through the new school system. I...
  9. nicolemarietherese reblogged this from stephaniestreisand and added:
    I wasn’t going to post again but it’s Friday and slow at work and something about this gets me. I totally hear what you...
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    Anyone interested in a group venture to create a match.com type site...improv team...
  11. stephaniestreisand reblogged this from halphillips and added:
    I knew about practice groups when I first started out. You practiced with your class in between classes. That’s what it...
  12. benzado reblogged this from bransonreese and added:
    weren’t funny. Just unfair.
  13. caitlintime reblogged this from mikescollins and added:
    I am currently holding interviews for Twitter followers. Please be advised you need to be able to handle AT LEAST 125...
  14. bransonreese reblogged this from benzado and added:
    I’ve been in New York for over a year now and probably as a result of my shyness and two inconveniently timed vacations...
  15. chrisreblogs reblogged this from halphillips and added:
    The weird little misconceptions my peers and I had back then seem laughable and quaint. But there’s
  16. mikescollins reblogged this from benzado and added:
    still think mine’s
  17. adambozarth reblogged this from benzado and added:
    I stand by my statement. If you are just taking classes and are trying to get into the practice group momentum, then you...
  18. halphillips reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    I suspect lots of new students simply don’t know the norms. I think interviewing people is silly, but I’m sure it’s not...
  19. digsyfinallyhasa reblogged this from nicolemarietherese and added:
    Yeah, I don’t really see what you could learn from an interview that you couldn’t learn from having someone sitting in...
  20. benjaminapple reblogged this from benzado and added:
    I think the implication is that the way teams generally get together (meeting in class, at jam sessions, around the...
  21. nicolemarietherese reblogged this from benzado and added:
    Because an interview - by its nature - involves judgment. Not the “comfort-level” judgment involved with seeing
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